The story is that Cary Grant once received a telegram from a reporter writing a bio piece on the actor; in all of the notes the reporter had taken, he had neglected to record Mr. Grant’s age. And so, he sent the following telegram:
How old Cary Grant? <stop>
The ever witty and suave silver screen idol replied with his own telegram:
Old Cary Grant fine, how you? <stop>
Old Cary Grant fine, how you? <stop>
The story may not be true, but I love it.
I once wrote a letter to an old girl friend. A young woman with whom I had ended a long relationship... I did not end it well, as I was enthralled with someone new. In short, I was a cad. (yes, we all spoke like that in the 80’s... “You cad... how deleterious of you to treat me in such a manner”... at least that’s how I remember it. We also wore spats, I think)
Three years later, I wrote to the woman wronged to apologize. I confessed my cad-like nature, apologized for the hurt and hoped that we might one day be friends. A week later, my letter was returned with bold letters across the front declaring “TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE”
The words practically knocked me out of my spats!
Last week, I posted on the Jubilee United Church sign these words:
Blessings and Peace
To our Muslim Friends
In the Holy Month
Of Ramadan.
It seemed a nice gesture. Acknowledging that many of our neighbours are Muslim. The same people who wish me “Merry Christmas” and “Happy Easter” when I see them on the street or in their places of business (at the appropriate time of year, of course.. we don’t just go around issuing holiday greetings out of context in Don Mills). Within two hours of posting the sign, I received an email – some of which I will quote:
Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology. Just like nazism and fascism. Mohammed was illiterate, was into the occult ... promoted 'kill anyone who does not follow me', his mother bewitched him, and he admitted to not performing any miracles. He was not raised from the dead. He never ascended into heaven. He was a liar and so is the religion. Muslims in Canada are here to convert this Christian country into an islam state. Go back to school and read the history of Christianity, and the 7th century of islam as warriors, aggressors and killers.
That's what they are taught. The Quran is full of lies. Ex-muslims speak of the evils of islam. And you have the self-righteousness to put that sign on your community centre marquee. Your organization is an embarrssment to Christianity. As a matter of fact, your organization is a heresy. Why don't you drive around and see how many mosques have marquees praising Christians and blessing them, etc. Never in a millions years. I'm not suggesting to behave like them, but don't even bother giving them attention. That's what they want. They want North Americans to be afraid of them, so they will give into them, and the next minute, presto, Christianity is gone, and islam is in.
There was more (much more)... but I think that you get the picture.
He signed it with his initials (although his name was quite evident in his email address)
What does one do with such an email?
I thought about the witty Cary Grant reply.... but didn’t know how to spell “bbbllllpphhhhhhh”
I thought about the declarative ex-girlfriend “SHUT UP!” response.
I considered ignoring it altogether. I mean, he’s not listening to me... he’s not really looking for dialogue or the exchange of ideas..
But then, I thought about the criticism that that is often levelled at “moderate” Muslims who don’t speak up when the radicals and haters make outrageous statements. We criticize them for not speaking out.. so, I thought that I needed to say something. So I did. Here is some of what I said: .
I am very sorry that you feel the way that you do and that our message on a "community" board to our neighbours hurt your feelings. I have a great many Muslim friends and acquaintances who regularly wish me Merry Christmas or Blessed Easter; and I feel that offering a similar greeting in return is the least that I can do as a courteous human being. I am reminded of the many "regular" Muslims who gathered to protect church in Indonesia last Christmas when radicals were targeting them for vandalism... as well as countless more that I work with regularly, feeding the hungry and clothing the naked.
It has never been my experience that peace has been found through ignorance or isolation and so I will always strive to move in the other direction - experience and inclusion - much like Jesus sitting, talking and eating with the Samaritan Woman at the well. Samaritans and Jews were not much different in that time than Muslims and Christians today.. But you are in good company, as the disciples couldn't understand either why Jesus was taking time to talk to this woman, a sworn enemy of all that they stood for!
I will accept your views as informed, but please do not assume that I am ignorant or inexperienced.... (I bragged about my education here... it's an ego thing)
..... my biggest concern is that your faith in God is such that you think that God can be defeated by any kind of human action; that somehow, if we don't push Islam back, then the life and death of Jesus Christ will all be for not. Surely that can't have been God's plan? God is a little more dynamic than that and a much better planner... not one to fall victim to my whims or politics.
But, clearly we are far apart on my many things and not likely to agree - so I wish you peace and the love of God.
Norm Seli
I am very sorry that you feel the way that you do and that our message on a "community" board to our neighbours hurt your feelings. I have a great many Muslim friends and acquaintances who regularly wish me Merry Christmas or Blessed Easter; and I feel that offering a similar greeting in return is the least that I can do as a courteous human being. I am reminded of the many "regular" Muslims who gathered to protect church in Indonesia last Christmas when radicals were targeting them for vandalism... as well as countless more that I work with regularly, feeding the hungry and clothing the naked.
It has never been my experience that peace has been found through ignorance or isolation and so I will always strive to move in the other direction - experience and inclusion - much like Jesus sitting, talking and eating with the Samaritan Woman at the well. Samaritans and Jews were not much different in that time than Muslims and Christians today.. But you are in good company, as the disciples couldn't understand either why Jesus was taking time to talk to this woman, a sworn enemy of all that they stood for!
I will accept your views as informed, but please do not assume that I am ignorant or inexperienced.... (I bragged about my education here... it's an ego thing)
..... my biggest concern is that your faith in God is such that you think that God can be defeated by any kind of human action; that somehow, if we don't push Islam back, then the life and death of Jesus Christ will all be for not. Surely that can't have been God's plan? God is a little more dynamic than that and a much better planner... not one to fall victim to my whims or politics.
But, clearly we are far apart on my many things and not likely to agree - so I wish you peace and the love of God.
Norm Seli
I could have been a little more harsh... but I wanted to at least leave the door open for discussion. I didn’t go for the angry ex-girlfriend response... but I will confess to a little “Cary Grant” cheek. I concluded my response with:
p.s. You should probably also know that we include Sikh's in our congregation; we perform same sex marriages and believe that the love of God is available to and evident in all people.
p.s. You should probably also know that we include Sikh's in our congregation; we perform same sex marriages and believe that the love of God is available to and evident in all people.
And I meant it...